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Unread March 26th, 2012, 03:44 PM
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Thank you Melinda for your response and concern. I sincerely appreciate it. I am glad you realized my intentions were not to create drama. As I said before it was out of desperation that I tried this. Stress can sometimes affect me this way. Ive been jogging since dec at least 5 times a week, cutting back on carbs and still wasn't losing. While on the cleanse I had to face the fact that I was eating foods that aren't good for me NOT that I didn't realize it before. Perhaps using the word fast wasn't my best choice of words. I did have a protein soup made especially for bariactric people and took my vitamins. I drank a lot of water as well. Interestingly a former member asked about this cleanse in 2007 and the responses weren't so strong. I didn't see her post until after I posted.
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Unread March 26th, 2012, 03:53 PM
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Sorry Happy if you thought my response was "strong". It honestly wasn't intended to hurt you or make you feel bad.

Perhaps we're 5 years wiser now than we were in 2007.

Were you honestly getting in 100 grams of protein from those soups, every single day? That's a minimum.

My 9 year labs just came back last month. I am not even in the range anymore for protein and albumin! This alarms me - I always get in at least 90 - 100 grams a day. For 8 years, things were great. So I just simply cannot imagine if I stopped protein or only had some broth what on earth my values would be. I'm having to add a protein shake every day (Unjury) and I hate it. I never liked the taste of them very much, but I don't know what else to do.

That's probably why your post alarmed me, because I know how diligent I have been about protein and my labs just went downhill in that department. It's a wake up call for me. I know I eat too many carbs and I'm more focused now than ever to push protein first. Definitely before veggies, salad, etc.
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Mindy - when my protein/albumin tanked a while back the recommendation was to add hard boiled eggs. I was eating at least 2 hard boiled eggs every day (in addition to the two eggs I would eat for breakfast). This honestly helped. Supposedly eggs are the best form of pure protein we can get.

Have you posted on the new board about this? You might get some good suggestions. The thought of having to go back to protein shakes makes me cringe
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Thanks Janet! I actually love hard boiled eggs. I do eat eggs every morning though but I guess for whatever reason my protein went below acceptable levels. You're right - I can barely force myself to drink those shakes.
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Unread March 27th, 2012, 08:28 PM
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Mindy,

My latest protein levels weren't so great either. I think Janet's advice is really good. I have been eating 4 hard boiled eggs every day....been keeping them in the fridge or taking them with me and just eating them. I cannot stand protein shakes either.
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Unread March 27th, 2012, 11:08 PM
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hi Melinda. im ok with your response. no i wasn't getting the correct amount of protein. each broth has 15 grams only. Now off the cleanse i eat 3 over medium eggs with cheese every morning and drink the atkins 1-2 times a day plus other protein foods and almonds and one chicken broth a day. i hope your levels go back up. i may try the hard boiled eggs too.

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Unread March 28th, 2012, 07:41 AM
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happy you need to eat at least 100g of protein every day. Are you getting at least that much?
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Unread May 6th, 2012, 09:44 PM
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Happy ~ I to have seemed to post and make people respond in a manner that is sometimes a little hard to take but I have come to think that it's just the way they type and mean no harm, I hope.

I try to be kind to everyone, but sometimes the typed word can be cruel when not intended.

Just to respond ~ I had the DS 13 years ago and would never fast or cleanse, just don't think it's a good idea, so be careful.

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I can't imagine why you thought you'd get a whole bunch of supportive or enthusiastic responses for a crash liquid diet combined with rigorous exercise as a post op. However, I don't think the ferocity of some of what I read before I finally stopped was called for.

No, I've not tried Master Cleanse, but I've wanted to. Reading that it really reduced gas issues of course makes sense because you're not eating anything that would give you gas, but that actually appeals to me as well.

I sincerely doubt that every long term post op has remained 100% true to post operative instructions every single day since surgery. If you say you have, well I just don't believe you and I'm not going to so save your typing in trying to defend or say otherwise. We're all human and nobody does all of the right things each and every day.

I'd also like to add that not every post op required 100 grams of protein daily. Again, save your typing to refute the statement. 100 grams is not the hard line. Some only need 75, others need as much as 120.

If you go on a cleanse for a week, you're not going to suffer long term problems although you may feel like crap when you return to regular food. This is NOT something that should be continued or done on a regular basis though, and I only say that for those who may be reading this thread interested in the "highlights" of the cleanse - the benefits to you, and miss the bigger picture.

I completely understand why you'd do it, just prior to a tummy tuck. No, probably not the best time to go protein free because it *can* impact recovery. But again, it's all in moderation. There are a lot of people out there who have compromised digestive issues naturally that are far worse than a DS post operative gut who either go on fasts for religious or even medical purposes and they survive.

Anyway, just wanted to lend a public "I understand". Because I do.

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Unread May 17th, 2012, 08:06 AM
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I would strongly suggest that DSers make every effort to get 100g of protein in every day. And I strongly believe that doing a "cleanse" is a very bad idea for DSers.
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